How did you distinguish yourself as an individual within the collective of a team?
I actually did that mostly with ball and stick on the pitch. Off the pitch I was more in the background, I really enjoyed it when others stepped forward. On the pitch I was a leader, off I was more in a supporting role. I didn't need to stand out in that sense, that didn't suit me. I also believe in playing the role that suits you, and for me that was very much just on the field. And sometimes in the locker room, if necessary. Outside of that, I left it to others. And I really appreciated that. It wasn't that I was absent. On the contrary, I was almost always the first one out there and the last one to leave the club. So, I observed it all, but without being in the foreground.
It's always good to be yourself. In that sense, did things change as the public role of field hockey player changed throughout your career?
I don't think you can compare my time to how it is now. Nowadays, you almost create your own “press” by using and shaping your platform as a field hockey player. That was really different in my day. When I started, cell phones weren’t a thing. And then at some point, all of us in the Dutch national team got a Motorola. Close to the turn of the century, I believe. The biggest change really did come after my time. How it is now – that being your own platform as an athlete has almost become an inherent part of field hockey – I didn’t experience that as an active player. So, in that respect, I didn't suffer or feel any pressure from that. I was probably lucky, because sometimes I found the attention that was already out there to be too much. And it sometimes felt uncomfortable that I got more attention than others, even though defense also played a crucial role in the results, for example. People’s attention always went to the goal scorers, so I played my part in that, even if it didn't feel quite right. That’s what it was like at the time. I also did it mainly because it was expected of me. Nowadays, you do see players taking more initiative in the public-facing narrative and that’s also very good. The circumstances are really totally different now.
How did you end up working as a coach after your career as a player?
I have three daughters, ages 19, 22, and 24, and at some point, I started training and coaching them for fun. And then I slowly rolled into that routine. First for youth, and eventually I was asked if I wanted to be an assistant for the women’s team. And then, very organically, the question arose if I wanted to become the coach. Looking back, the role of coach also fits very well with the supportive approach I took as a player. I didn't think about that at the time, but you can see it in retrospect. When we won the Euro Hockey League last year, I was overjoyed. I was so happy for the players and the other staff. We worked super hard for that. That euphoria is different than what I experienced as a player, but it certainly doesn't feel any less intense.
Empowering the different talents in such a group, that appeals to me tremendously. There may be players I played with myself who didn't see it coming that I would end up as a coach. When I look back now, at how I was back then, I can see I was also affected by the fact that I was always a few years younger than my teammates. That went on for quite a long time, because I had advanced through the youth academy quickly and then I joined the Dutch national team early, too. At some point, my role did change – but I also have to say that I changed, albeit very gradually, in the years after my active career. Everyone develops in their own way. As a coach, I now recognize how important it is to have your own voice. I still have to push myself in that regard, but I know it's necessary to get where I want to go in my work as a coach. Being a coach is sometimes a lonely profession. So, eventually I’ll have to take the lead in that myself.
It's fascinating to reflect on how you did it your own way as a player and – even though coaching requires you to be more visible – you’re still doing it your own way. Without compromising your character.
That's true. I also believe that, as a coach, you reach almost no one by fussing and shouting during a game. The moments to assert yourself are during an interchange, when you have the players close to you and really make contact. That's when your words resonate. That’s when I tap into my own strength. If you look at European football, I see an example in someone like Carlo Ancelotti, who has hardly shouted in his entire career, but still knows how to reach the players and is enormously successful. In that respect, my core hasn’t changed from when I was a player. I always try to stay as true to myself as possible. There, also, lies a great match with what Atelier Munro stands for, with its approach.